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		<title>By: Brandon Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://ballerblogger.com/2008/08/07/what-would-it-take-to-bring-james-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-1366</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred,

I agree.  James has larger aspirations than basketball.  Although I don&#039;t see LBJ going broke like a few athletes that have come before him.</description>
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<p>I agree.  James has larger aspirations than basketball.  Although I don&#8217;t see LBJ going broke like a few athletes that have come before him.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://ballerblogger.com/2008/08/07/what-would-it-take-to-bring-james-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-1349</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kid has been hanging out with Warren Buffet and is now considered a personal friend. Joe Dumars recently made a comment at a dinner when asked about Bret Farve not being able to give up football. When asked if he felt that way about basketball he cleverly answered when you have other things going in your life, its easy to move on and do something else. Said he hasn&#039;t even picked up a ball and shot with his kids since retirement.  

LaBron is definitely thinking much bigger than basketball.  Just imagine having an equity stake, and significant royalties from marketing as an owner. Just imagine being the number 1 player to the other 4 billion people between Europe and China. I mean the US is great but we&#039;re still only 330 million people. Championships are great but if you can go make a billion I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll get over it.  There are tons of championship winning athletes that are broke or near it. Give me the fortune, f the fame and yall can have the name. Quick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kid has been hanging out with Warren Buffet and is now considered a personal friend. Joe Dumars recently made a comment at a dinner when asked about Bret Farve not being able to give up football. When asked if he felt that way about basketball he cleverly answered when you have other things going in your life, its easy to move on and do something else. Said he hasn&#8217;t even picked up a ball and shot with his kids since retirement.  </p>
<p>LaBron is definitely thinking much bigger than basketball.  Just imagine having an equity stake, and significant royalties from marketing as an owner. Just imagine being the number 1 player to the other 4 billion people between Europe and China. I mean the US is great but we&#8217;re still only 330 million people. Championships are great but if you can go make a billion I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll get over it.  There are tons of championship winning athletes that are broke or near it. Give me the fortune, f the fame and yall can have the name. Quick.</p>
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		<title>By: The NBA At A Crossroad &#124; WaitingForNextYear</title>
		<link>http://ballerblogger.com/2008/08/07/what-would-it-take-to-bring-james-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>The NBA At A Crossroad &#124; WaitingForNextYear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hoffman of BallerBlogger made what was, in my opinion, the most intriguing argument yet for LeBron leaving for Europe. He writes, “Even more enticing to James has to be the revelation [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hoffman of BallerBlogger made what was, in my opinion, the most intriguing argument yet for LeBron leaving for Europe. He writes, “Even more enticing to James has to be the revelation [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are NUTS!!! If Lebron or Kobe sings with a Euro Team the NBA will never be the best league in the world. Why?? Because Great Players will split in different EURO teams and basketball leagues would be WORDLWIDE equal or better than the NBA. You have to understand that the NBA is like the WWF... a show! Let&#039;s sat Kobe sings with Moscow (Example). He would have all the media attention ( Not USA ) and the eyes of the fans would be on the EURO league where the best player in the planet is. This could have a huge impact in the NBA and around the world.

The only thing that saves the NBA for his death would be tha David Stern manage to bring and mix the Esuro League teams with the NbA ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are NUTS!!! If Lebron or Kobe sings with a Euro Team the NBA will never be the best league in the world. Why?? Because Great Players will split in different EURO teams and basketball leagues would be WORDLWIDE equal or better than the NBA. You have to understand that the NBA is like the WWF&#8230; a show! Let&#8217;s sat Kobe sings with Moscow (Example). He would have all the media attention ( Not USA ) and the eyes of the fans would be on the EURO league where the best player in the planet is. This could have a huge impact in the NBA and around the world.</p>
<p>The only thing that saves the NBA for his death would be tha David Stern manage to bring and mix the Esuro League teams with the NbA ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://ballerblogger.com/2008/08/07/what-would-it-take-to-bring-james-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kareem - The basketball world is changing, there&#039;s no questioning that.

King_Kaun - I saw Dirk&#039;s new do.  Lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kareem &#8211; The basketball world is changing, there&#8217;s no questioning that.</p>
<p>King_Kaun &#8211; I saw Dirk&#8217;s new do.  Lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Kareem</title>
		<link>http://ballerblogger.com/2008/08/07/what-would-it-take-to-bring-james-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-1083</link>
		<dc:creator>Kareem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think anyone would bolt for the old world. Finally they&#039;re paying the black man to bring him to Europe. Revelation upon great revelation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think anyone would bolt for the old world. Finally they&#8217;re paying the black man to bring him to Europe. Revelation upon great revelation!</p>
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		<title>By: King_Kaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>King_Kaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 02:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are all missing the big picture here! The real story revolves around Dirk&#039;s new haircut!!

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/08/Nowitzki.jpg


Hooray!! Olympics are here!!

p.s. LeBron would totally bolt for that price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are all missing the big picture here! The real story revolves around Dirk&#8217;s new haircut!!</p>
<p><a href="http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/08/Nowitzki.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/08/Nowitzki.jpg</a></p>
<p>Hooray!! Olympics are here!!</p>
<p>p.s. LeBron would totally bolt for that price.</p>
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		<title>By: dusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, OK jeffrox.

so you are saying that not everything appears to be what it be?

it&#039;s all about &quot;perception&quot;. 

hopefully lisa horne will stop back by and leave another comment, so you can break out your decoder ring and translate for me.

thanks.

KOBE!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, OK jeffrox.</p>
<p>so you are saying that not everything appears to be what it be?</p>
<p>it&#8217;s all about &#8220;perception&#8221;. </p>
<p>hopefully lisa horne will stop back by and leave another comment, so you can break out your decoder ring and translate for me.</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
<p>KOBE!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://ballerblogger.com/2008/08/07/what-would-it-take-to-bring-james-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-1077</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

No offense taken.  I hope I answered your questions/concerns.</description>
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<p>No offense taken.  I hope I answered your questions/concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon

Sorry if I appeared to be offensive. I think you&#039;re a great guy. I have not followed your links yet. Maybe next time. I just didnt find it smart to relate the exchange rate factor to an article of another sports columnist, quote and unquote.

&quot;Another thing that you need to take into consideration is the exchange rate.
I cited this above, but Patrick McManamon of The Akron Beacon Journal reported yesterday that “$100 million in U.S. dollars adds up to a meager $64.57 million euros.”&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon</p>
<p>Sorry if I appeared to be offensive. I think you&#8217;re a great guy. I have not followed your links yet. Maybe next time. I just didnt find it smart to relate the exchange rate factor to an article of another sports columnist, quote and unquote.</p>
<p>&#8220;Another thing that you need to take into consideration is the exchange rate.<br />
I cited this above, but Patrick McManamon of The Akron Beacon Journal reported yesterday that “$100 million in U.S. dollars adds up to a meager $64.57 million euros.”&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrox</title>
		<link>http://ballerblogger.com/2008/08/07/what-would-it-take-to-bring-james-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-1074</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon
Yeah, European kids wear Nikes too. But I strongly doubt it was largely due to LeBron. Even among ALL my Filipino friends who play basketball, while LeBron rings a bell, he doesnt really influence their buying preference. They&#039;d prefer to wear Nike just the same. More than 5 years ago, Kobe was endorsing Adidas and collecting NBA titles. I have no idea about the total marketing success of the Kobe Adidas shoes but per my observation at that time, it was far from a good. I&#039;m not saying that celebrity endorsers are useless. It&#039;s just that there are too many factors that contribute to the success of a product. And it&#039;s impossible to unbundle one from another.

Dusty
As for the comparison to Dominique Wilkins, he was hugely popular because of his rivaly with Michael Jordan both in points production and slam-dunks. LeBron will surely be remembered even if he plays in Europe. But certainly not as great as you&#039;d expect it to be considering his status now. That&#039;s probably what Lisa Horne&#039;s message. The gravity of name recall is different. Not everyone has a sharp memory or follows the NBA closely. It&#039;s like me saying something like this that people already forgot about Hakeem Olajuwon and of course you can also argue that a number of guys can still manage to spew out his approximate stats during his phenomenal years, championship and MVP years. It&#039;s not necessarily being literal even if it appears to be literal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon<br />
Yeah, European kids wear Nikes too. But I strongly doubt it was largely due to LeBron. Even among ALL my Filipino friends who play basketball, while LeBron rings a bell, he doesnt really influence their buying preference. They&#8217;d prefer to wear Nike just the same. More than 5 years ago, Kobe was endorsing Adidas and collecting NBA titles. I have no idea about the total marketing success of the Kobe Adidas shoes but per my observation at that time, it was far from a good. I&#8217;m not saying that celebrity endorsers are useless. It&#8217;s just that there are too many factors that contribute to the success of a product. And it&#8217;s impossible to unbundle one from another.</p>
<p>Dusty<br />
As for the comparison to Dominique Wilkins, he was hugely popular because of his rivaly with Michael Jordan both in points production and slam-dunks. LeBron will surely be remembered even if he plays in Europe. But certainly not as great as you&#8217;d expect it to be considering his status now. That&#8217;s probably what Lisa Horne&#8217;s message. The gravity of name recall is different. Not everyone has a sharp memory or follows the NBA closely. It&#8217;s like me saying something like this that people already forgot about Hakeem Olajuwon and of course you can also argue that a number of guys can still manage to spew out his approximate stats during his phenomenal years, championship and MVP years. It&#8217;s not necessarily being literal even if it appears to be literal.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://ballerblogger.com/2008/08/07/what-would-it-take-to-bring-james-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

Take a look at this:

http://www.nikebiz.com/media/pr/2008/06/25_Earnings.html

It doesn&#039;t focus on LeBron, but it does touch on Nike&#039;s European sales and discusses the exchange rate.

You said, &quot;In my estimation, considering all the known factors to me, I would put the price tag for Lebron to disregard or sacrifice his other valuable concerns at the $70M range tax-free. Because if $50M ‘barely’ exceeds his current level at the cost of sacrificing his other concerns, then a substantial amount over that should be presented to him.&quot;

Are you implying that LeBron would receive less in endorsement money if chose to play in Europe?

I didn&#039;t really &quot;need&quot; to cite the Akron Beacon Journal columnist.  I just wanted to bring a great article to your attention.

If you&#039;d like to check his numbers, here is a currency converter:

http://finance.yahoo.com/currency?u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Take a look at this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nikebiz.com/media/pr/2008/06/25_Earnings.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nikebiz.com/media/pr/2008/06/25_Earnings.html</a></p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t focus on LeBron, but it does touch on Nike&#8217;s European sales and discusses the exchange rate.</p>
<p>You said, &#8220;In my estimation, considering all the known factors to me, I would put the price tag for Lebron to disregard or sacrifice his other valuable concerns at the $70M range tax-free. Because if $50M ‘barely’ exceeds his current level at the cost of sacrificing his other concerns, then a substantial amount over that should be presented to him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you implying that LeBron would receive less in endorsement money if chose to play in Europe?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really &#8220;need&#8221; to cite the Akron Beacon Journal columnist.  I just wanted to bring a great article to your attention.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to check his numbers, here is a currency converter:</p>
<p><a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/currency?u" rel="nofollow">http://finance.yahoo.com/currency?u</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://ballerblogger.com/2008/08/07/what-would-it-take-to-bring-james-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-1071</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa Horne - Welcome!  I don&#039;t know if LBJ would be forgotten.  I think ESPN would find a way to televise his games.  And I don&#039;t think his endorsement income would suffer either.  European kids wear Nikes too.

And in most circumstances, I don&#039;t fault players for trying to earn as much as they can.  Unless those players are putting dollars over victories or legacy.  Which wouldn&#039;t be the case for someone as young as LeBron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa Horne &#8211; Welcome!  I don&#8217;t know if LBJ would be forgotten.  I think ESPN would find a way to televise his games.  And I don&#8217;t think his endorsement income would suffer either.  European kids wear Nikes too.</p>
<p>And in most circumstances, I don&#8217;t fault players for trying to earn as much as they can.  Unless those players are putting dollars over victories or legacy.  Which wouldn&#8217;t be the case for someone as young as LeBron.</p>
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		<title>By: dusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa Horne Says: 
August 8th, 2008 at 10:05 am 
If he doesn’t win a title or MVP, then once he goes to Europe, he’ll be forgotten. Except by Cavs fans of course. Kobe also said he would do it for 50 mil. While I’m all for anyone making as much money as possible, isn’t there a point where it becomes to gluttony? Nice read!

_____________

as per usual, great point here by lisa horne.

lisa, ever heard of dominique wilkens?

nique, (good god i love that name)was inducted into the NBA hall of fame in 2006. 

nique (lol) lead the league in scoring ONCE, and earned 1st team all NBA ONCE!

ZERO championships, ZERO finals appearances, ZERO mvp&#039;s.

hopefully you hadn&#039;t forgotten who nique played for in 1994, i bet hawks fans haven&#039;t.

PS. gag me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa Horne Says:<br />
August 8th, 2008 at 10:05 am<br />
If he doesn’t win a title or MVP, then once he goes to Europe, he’ll be forgotten. Except by Cavs fans of course. Kobe also said he would do it for 50 mil. While I’m all for anyone making as much money as possible, isn’t there a point where it becomes to gluttony? Nice read!</p>
<p>_____________</p>
<p>as per usual, great point here by lisa horne.</p>
<p>lisa, ever heard of dominique wilkens?</p>
<p>nique, (good god i love that name)was inducted into the NBA hall of fame in 2006. </p>
<p>nique (lol) lead the league in scoring ONCE, and earned 1st team all NBA ONCE!</p>
<p>ZERO championships, ZERO finals appearances, ZERO mvp&#8217;s.</p>
<p>hopefully you hadn&#8217;t forgotten who nique played for in 1994, i bet hawks fans haven&#8217;t.</p>
<p>PS. gag me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon

YOu have agreed with my assessment that paying Lebron $50M tax-free wont be profitable and it does not even ensure a strong chance at the title. I have reservations though on your forecast of Nike sales once Lebron transfers to Europe. Im a sales information analyst with logical and pragmatic approach influenced by my engineering background and I must say that marketing is not an exact science. I don&#039;t like to appear rhetorical but you have to convince me about Lebron&#039;s Nike sales influence with solid numbers.
Had Lebron not existed would Nike sales be down? Had Nike sales been up because solely of Lebron? How about the influence of other endorsers? I can go on and on but the bottomline is, anyone can easily point out a kink in that data like sales cannibalization, changing trend or buying pattern/preference, emerging competition and so on. In short, an environment from two different periods can never be the same. In effect, Nike sales may go down or up wherever Lebron plays however large his influence may be. So, I have to reserve my analysis on this one unless I&#039;m presented with more credible and comprehensive sales figures from Nike.

I will focus in stead on your million-dollar question. In my estimation, considering all the known factors to me, I would put the price tag for Lebron to disregard or sacrifice his other valuable concerns at the $70M range tax-free. Because if $50M &#039;barely&#039; exceeds his current level at the cost of sacrificing his other concerns, then a substantial amount over that should be presented to him. Whether he&#039;s worth that amount or if a Euro team is actually capable of paying and being sane at the same time is beside the point.

I find it strange that you have to quote a day-old item from another sports columnist to figure out how much $100M is actually worth in Euros.

I&#039;ll keep my critique of LeBron&#039;s statement for the meantime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon</p>
<p>YOu have agreed with my assessment that paying Lebron $50M tax-free wont be profitable and it does not even ensure a strong chance at the title. I have reservations though on your forecast of Nike sales once Lebron transfers to Europe. Im a sales information analyst with logical and pragmatic approach influenced by my engineering background and I must say that marketing is not an exact science. I don&#8217;t like to appear rhetorical but you have to convince me about Lebron&#8217;s Nike sales influence with solid numbers.<br />
Had Lebron not existed would Nike sales be down? Had Nike sales been up because solely of Lebron? How about the influence of other endorsers? I can go on and on but the bottomline is, anyone can easily point out a kink in that data like sales cannibalization, changing trend or buying pattern/preference, emerging competition and so on. In short, an environment from two different periods can never be the same. In effect, Nike sales may go down or up wherever Lebron plays however large his influence may be. So, I have to reserve my analysis on this one unless I&#8217;m presented with more credible and comprehensive sales figures from Nike.</p>
<p>I will focus in stead on your million-dollar question. In my estimation, considering all the known factors to me, I would put the price tag for Lebron to disregard or sacrifice his other valuable concerns at the $70M range tax-free. Because if $50M &#8216;barely&#8217; exceeds his current level at the cost of sacrificing his other concerns, then a substantial amount over that should be presented to him. Whether he&#8217;s worth that amount or if a Euro team is actually capable of paying and being sane at the same time is beside the point.</p>
<p>I find it strange that you have to quote a day-old item from another sports columnist to figure out how much $100M is actually worth in Euros.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep my critique of LeBron&#8217;s statement for the meantime.</p>
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