The Fundamentals

» January 19, 2009 10:34 AM | By Brandon Hoffman

Marc Berman of the New York Post:  “Was on Bill Daughtrey’s weekend show on ESPN Radio and he asked me a very poignant question on whether I thought the new regime – for all the good publicity their arrival spawned – has mismanaged the club this season. Daughtrey is as tough on the Knicks as anyone out there and his question was spot on. It hasn’t been written about enough – or written about recently enough – how many wasted roster spots the Knicks have had and still have. You can make a case there are five of 15 roster spots that have been completely wasted until this past weekend. Stephon Marbury, Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Cuttino Mobley and – until Saturday night – Danilo Gallinari. That’s 1/3 of the roster being unable to contribute a lick, even in practice. James went down Sunday in practice with his millionth injury, an Achilles strain. And you wonder why the Knicks have looked worn out and shoddy since December? Could Isiah Thomas have gotten away with that?”

Jeff McDonald of the San Antonio Express-News:  “This season, the Spurs are 26-13 and sitting atop the Southwest Division. But, in a flip from years past, Popovich believes his team’s success has come in spite of its defense, not because of it. Heading into today’s MLK Day matinee at Charlotte, which caps a three-game road swing, the Spurs rank eighth in the NBA in scoring defense, surrendering 94.2 points per game. That number isn’t so bad. To Popovich, it also is largely irrelevant. A truer measure of a team’s defensive effectiveness, he believes, is its field-goal percentage defense. It is the first number he looks at when handed the box score at the end of the night. In Popovich’s 11 full seasons on the bench, the Spurs never have finished worse than fifth in the NBA in that category. So far this season, they rank 21st. Opponents are shooting 46 percent against them.”

48 Minutes of Hell:  MLK Day Musing on “Spurs Culture”

Dave Feschuk of the Toronto Star:  “How did it go so wrong, so quickly? Clearly the summertime trade that brought O’Neal to Toronto for T.J. Ford, Rasho Nesterovic and a first-round draft pick, panned in this corner as it happened, is a failure. Colangelo spoke before the season of his belief that O’Neal would fill a hole in the club’s defence and rebounding corps – but they’re as bad as they’ve ever been in both categories. Colangelo figured O’Neal would complement Chris Bosh, the resident all-star, but O’Neal, when healthy, has largely been an older, slower duplicate to Bosh. And though O’Neal is a public-relations genius who unfurls a yarn with the skill of 100 spin doctors, you can’t help but think that his unwillingness to play through pain and his diva-esque demeanour have been at least partly responsible for the palpable lack of chemistry on this season’s squad. So it’s agreed: unloading O’Neal before the trade deadline, which comes one month from today at 3 p.m., is a necessity. This club isn’t any good as constructed, after all, and its window to get better is rapidly closing.”

Rick Bonnell of The Charlotte Observer:  “Have you ever had a plumber or a painter or a lawn guy come to your house, and turn the whole place into a wreck? Then he finishes his job in a meticulous, visionary manner, and you think: ‘This was a lot of trouble, but I’m glad I hired this guy.’ I’ve decided the Larry Brown Effect is very similar. Frankly, it’s hard to describe Brown as a plumber or a painter because he’s nothing like those guys on the surface. Larry was a metro-sexual decades before that term was coined. He’s fastidious in a way men typically aren’t. He’ll never be the beer-belly guy, holding a wrench and crawling around the cellar, searching for the cut-off valve. But he’s definitely a guy who understands a mess must be made to really fix things. And that’s what’s happening to the Charlotte Bobcats. They got worse to get better.”

Tom Enlund of the Journal Sentinel:  “The Bucks haven’t been consistently good, as indicated by their pedestrian 20-23 record. But, on the other hand, they win just enough so that they’re not consistently bad, either. ‘At least if we were consistently losing, then we’d know what the problem is,’ forward Richard Jefferson said. ‘We’re not even doing that.’ By losing Saturday night, 101-92, to the lowly and injury-depleted Los Angeles Clippers they let a guarantee for a winning three-game western trip slide through their grasp. After having split the first two games, they will face the Portland Trail Blazers – the only opponent on the trip with a winning record – tonight at the Rose Garden. Coach Scott Skiles was asked what it would take for the team to develop some consistency. ‘You hope each player becomes more consistent,’ he said. ‘That’s what you’re hoping for. ‘We’re on a terrible defensive tear in the last 10 or 12 games. And we had been playing very solid defense. It’s gotten away from us. We appear to be out there thinking that we can outscore people now. So let’s see if that works.’ Skiles paused. ‘I doubt it will,’ he said.”

Jeff Caplan of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram:  “Dallas is averaging about 35 points a game in the paint, while its opponents average nearly 40 and have reached at least 40 points 19 times, or in nearly half of the games. ‘For us to be successful, especially the second half of the season, we’re going to have to get to the basket,’ Terry said. ‘We’re not going to be able to rely on those jump shots, especially against good defensive teams. You have to show that you’re going to be the aggressor, going to make them pay and punish them in the paint. We have to win the points-in-the-paint battle.’ Without Howard, the team’s best slasher when he chooses to penetrate, it makes it tougher for Dallas to pile up inside points. Nowitzki, aggressive all game against Utah, will test an aching right ankle at Philadelphia. He rolled it late in the fourth quarter, left the game briefly and hobbled back onto the court. ‘He’s sore,’ Carlisle said. ‘He turned it [the ankle] over on a defensive play late in the game. He went through some things [at Sunday’s practice], but not everything.’ Carlisle preaches situational driving.”

Brian Hanley of the Chicago Sun-Times:  “Gordon has enjoyed the freedom that comes with coach Vinny Del Negro’s up-tempo offense. He also recognizes the responsibility it brings. ‘This year we’re not as structured as we were under Scott [Skiles],’ Gordon said. ‘[Del Negro] gives us a lot of freedom, especially guys on the perimeter. Sometimes you can get carried away. You can take that freedom and abuse it. We have to be more cognizant of valuing every possession and making sure we’re not taking advantage of the freedom he’s giving us and we’re using it to our advantage. It’s up to guys like me, Kirk, Lu to bring that back if we see it lacking. That’s why we’ve been so up-and-down this season. We have to get back to playing the right way, listening to what the game says. If the game says pass, pass it. If you’re open, shoot the ball. That’s something we did real well a few years ago. We need to get back to that.’”

Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel:  “Taking their whirlwind campaign on the road last week, the Magic swept four Western Conference clubs, including wins against three division leaders (the San Antonio Spurs, Los Angeles Lakers and Denver Nuggets). Another defining trip by the league’s top road team (17-5) is the shiny centerpiece of the Magic’s 33-8 record. Not that the Magic haven’t improved at home; they take a 16-3 record into their largest and, surely, loudest game this season at Amway Arena on Thursday against Doc’s reigning champion Celtics. But it’s their roadwork, built on steely nerves, 3-pointers and Jameer Nelson’s guile, that best reflects their rise from curiosity to confident contender.”

Fran Blinebury of the Houston Chronicle:  “Perhaps it is no coincidence that the ball movement has returned at the same time the Rockets have been able to put the same starting lineup out on the floor for three straight games, a rarity in this injury-plagued season. ‘That goes a long way,’ Battier said. ‘We knew what we were getting from our guys. We knew when Von (Wafer) got the ball, he was going to set the tone with his aggressive play. Aaron came into the game in the second quarter and set the tempo. ‘Continuity is an amazing thing. We haven’t had it too much this year. So when you have it — two or three games — it’s almost shocking.’ Maybe it is also no coincidence that the ball movement has resurfaced as a staple of the Rockets’ diet at the same time Tracy McGrady (knee) and Ron Artest (ankle) are sidelined by injuries. There is less of an inclination to rely on their one-on-one ability to bail the team out of every situation. There is less feeding the need of great players to constantly make great plays.”

Marcus Thompson II of the Contra Costa Times:  “In times past, you wouldn’t have seen Crawford provide such solid help defense as he did Wednesday when he blocked a pull-up jumper by Sacramento’s Kevin Martin from behind. You wouldn’t have seen him hustle to contest a buzzer-beating attempt, as he did against Atlanta on Friday, blocking Zaza Pachulia’s heave into the stands near half-court. You wouldn’t have seen him getting excited and showing emotion when he makes a play on the defensive end, as he has lately. ‘I’ve always known defense was important,’ said Crawford, who was acquired in a trade with the New York Knicks on Nov. 21. ‘But coach Smart has communicated it to me in a way that’s really challenged me to be a better defender. He’s a great communicator. He knows how to get something across to his players. ‘Coach Smart has taught me that, being the point guard, I can have as big an impact of a game on that end of the floor. That’s kind of a new perspective. Ninety percent of players think of offense first.’”

Michael Hunt of the Journal Sentinel:  “The first half of the 6-foot-8 forward’s rookie season was largely spent as a non-contributor. That Alexander is suddenly more involved – averages of 13 minutes and eight points off the bench in the last three games – is relevant to a lot of things, not the least of which is a disastrous first-round history this decade that is partially responsible for the hole the Bucks are trying to escape. The 2000 pick, Joel Przybilla, never really made it here. His liabilities were compounded by the fact that the Bucks also gave up their 2001 first-round pick to get him. In 2002, Marcus Haislip was among the franchise’s all-time first-round busts, which is saying something. T.J. Ford was a harmful pick in 2003. The Bucks did not have a 2004 first-round pick because they gave it to Denver, along with Scott Williams, in 2001 to clear salary space for maybe their all-time ruinous move, the Anthony Mason signing. Andrew Bogut (2005) became a centerpiece. The 2006 first-round choice was given away in the bad Jamaal Magloire trade. Yi Jianlian in 2007 was deemed, rightly so, too soft to stay. So when an organization has exactly one drafted player to show from such a precious resource in the last nine years, and not coincidentally is 59 games below .500 since, it’s way past time to start making amends with someone.”

Dave D’Alessandro of The Star-Ledger:  “‘They have to like what Vince brings in terms of leadership and scoring,’ said one NBA general manager. ‘But you know, they have to think about moving him, if they can get a couple of young pieces — or one kid with great potential like they got in the (Richard) Jefferson deal. You have to think about it, if it helps you long-term.’ That’s where the 19-22 Nets are at the midpoint of the 2008-09 season. It’s not the easiest place to reside. It becomes more complicated by the fact that they were just squashed by the world champion Celtics twice in the past week — ample proof that they aren’t ready to compete with elite teams. It becomes more complicated by the fact that they have dropped into a tie for eighth place in the Eastern Conference, with Chicago and Charlotte breathing down their necks.”

Matt Steinmetz of The Examiner:  “He’s played in five consecutive games, and coach Don Nelson has even found a reason to start Randolph in three of them … with mixed results. Randolph seems to be benefiting from a subtle change in how the Warriors’ coaching staff is handling him. There’s been more of a hands-off approach when Randolph is practicing with his teammates, and more instruction in individual settings. ‘I’ve been around players who sometimes function better in an individual setting rather than a group setting,’ Warriors assistsnt coach Keith Smart said after Sunday’s practice. ‘He seems to have taken to that. He’s made the commitment to come in early to practice. … just slowing everything down. Work on simple things, footwork, where your shot should come from, what to do next with the basketball.’ Reading between the lines a little bit here, it seems as though Randolph struggles when criticized in front of teammates.”

Mark Heisler of the Los Angeles Times:  “Before every game, James holds a brief news conference, a rarity for stars now. But the sessions are businesslike, with James revealing little personality. In commercials, and the delight he takes in them, you can see his ham actor side, but those scripted pieces are the closest the public gets to the Real LeBron. Actually, James isn’t a stone-faced Ambitiontron, but the life of the party, once the locker-room door closes.  In the U.S. team practices in China at the Beijing Olympics last summer, it was James’ voice that echoed throughout the gym, chirping nonstop, while the grown-ups, Kobe Bryant and Jason Kidd, went quietly about their business. In one of the highest compliments a Laker can give, Bryant later told Magic Johnson, interviewing him for ABC, that James ‘reminds me of you, to be honest with you, because he’s just so outgoing, he’s so gregarious, he embraces everyone. He’s got that energy about him that’s fun to be around.’”

Brian Windhorst of The Plain Dealer:  “At this point in their careers, both seem to be worried about things other than personal rivalries. Both James and Bryant have experienced the sting of losing in the NBA Finals over the past two seasons. Both are attempting to get their teams through rough times with injuries this season after both teams got off to incredible starts. The Cavs are without starters Delonte West and Zydrunas Ilgauskas, the Lakers have been missing guards Jordan Farmar and Sasha Vujacic and just got core players Lamar Odom and Luke Walton back from injuries. But then there was that Sunday afternoon 51 weeks ago in L.A. where James and Bryant did construct a memorable duel in their last meeting as opponents.”

Neil Paine of Basketball-Reference.com:  “Even though it’s tempting to put Bryant and Jordan side by side because of their similar aesthetic qualities (on and off the court), there are a number of fundamental differences in their respective games. Jordan, for instance, was a deadly midrange jump-shooter (particularly in his later years), but a rather pedestrian long-range threat — aside from the seasons with the shortened 3-point arc, Jordan’s career 3FG% was 28.8% (by contrast, Kobe is a career 34% shooter from 23′9″). The flip-side of that is that young Jordan settled for fewer long jumpers than Kobe, instead attacking the basket with ruthless ferocity. Which brings us to the real topic of this post. We as a basketball culture have spent a lot of time searching for the ‘next Jordan,’ eventually settling on Bryant as ‘the closest we’re going to get to Michael’ among current players. Except we declared Kobe Jordanesque too soon — little did we know there would be another guy out there who’s an even better match for Jordan: LeBron James. For instance, like young Mike, James is less of an outside shooter and more inclined to attack the basket on powerful drives, and he relies on superior physical tools to create jaw-dropping chances around the rim. That’s not the only similarity, though.”

Nate Jones for NBA FanHouse:  “Any statistical measurement that didn’t have LeBron James, Chris Paul, Dwyane Wade, Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant close to the top would be irrelevant, and PER definitely avoids that pothole. If you follow the PER metric alone, LeBron is probably playing better than any player in the modern era right now. But utilizing PER alone to compare and contrast players might not always be the best decision. First of all, PER is weighted in favor of players who have games predicated on scoring closer to the basket and playing in the paint. The rebound rate for someone that defends the low post, plays in the low post or does most of their dirty work getting to the rim is going to be a bit higher than someone that spends most of their time out on the perimeter. Same could be said for field goal percentages, as those that get to the rim or play close to the rim are going to be higher than those that play around the perimeter. Proof of this comes from the fact that the top 100 individual season PERs in the history of the NBA are dominated by the greatest Centers and Power Forwards in the history of the game.”


5 Responses to “The Fundamentals”

  1. Tsunami Says:

    Interesting to read the two articles on FanHouse. The one FOR LeBron James using PER as a metric, and the one FOR Kobe Bryant in spite of PER.

    different arguments resonate with different people. Although I have to say, the one FOR Kobe is made no sense to me. Here’s the excerpts I took exception to:

    “First of all, PER is weighted in favor of players who have games predicated on scoring closer to the basket and playing in the paint. The rebound rate for someone that defends the low post, plays in the low post or does most of their dirty work getting to the rim is going to be a bit higher than someone that spends most of their time out on the perimeter. Same could be said for field goal percentages, as those that get to the rim or play close to the rim are going to be higher than those that play around the perimeter.”

    But in the previous paragraph, he points out that Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul, LeBron James, and Kobe Bryant are all at the top of PER. Um, since when do ANY of those players live in the post?! LeBron rarely defends post players, and he rarely posts up, and when he does post up, he is immediately double-teamed. He is 6′8″, not 7 feet tall. the fact that he scores so many of his points in the paint is a tribute to his aggressiveness, shot selection, and his incredible handles…

    the same can be said for the other 3! None of those guys live in the post.

    Then he goes on to show that with the exception of a few players, the majority of the best PER seasons are from bigs. And then (incredibly) here are his exceptions: Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Oscar Robertson, and Tracy McGrady. Um, I’m sorry, aren’t 4 of those players 4 of the best 10 players of all time?! So, PER is getting those guys right…

    Finally he makes a point worth making, that Elton Brand has a higher career PER than John Stockton, Clyde Drexler, Gary payton, and Scottie Pippen. Now, this is defintely worth pointing out, especially since Brand has been a disaster this season – makes the point more POIGNANT. But here’s the problem, offensively, Brand’s career probably IS on par with those guys. So without any mention of it, Nate Jones finally reveals the true problem with PER – the only defensive measurements it takes into account are steals, blocks, and rebounds – which is definitely not enough of a defensive picture. We can get a pretty good picture of a player’s offensive production from PER, but things like help-side defense, and opponent field goal percentage are not accounted for. For example, Chris Paul leads the league in steals and has a pretty respectable rebound rate for his position. But everyone will tell you that at Paul’s size, he’s not bothering anyone’s shot. So maybe PER overrates him a bit.

    Anyway, Jones then goes off on a tangent about how Kobe’s PER would be much higher if not for Phil Jackson always holding him back. But doesn’t that right there perfectly indicate a few facts about this whole argument? 1.) That the Lakers (just like everyone other than Jordan’s bulls) were unable to win a title with a dominant big? and 2.) Kobe’s FG percentage took a hit when Shaq left, and it wasn’t really until the best year of his career (2006) that he was able to get it back to his 21 year old level. this year, playing alongside Gasol and Bynum, his FG% is at an all time high. But here’s the problem. LeBron James’ efficiency has been higher than Kobe’s almost ever year and he has had NO dominant players alongside him. So, if Kobe’s FG% increases because he has more talent around him (which makes sense…less double teams) and Lebron’s is always higher anyway, in spite of lack of talent (playing through double and triple teams) – why does it surprise anyone that LeBron is a more efficient player?

    In the end, PER is an improvement over per/game stats and should be treated as such – not the end all stat. But dang, reading http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=838&cpage=1#comment-8477 blew me away. I had no idea LeBron was THAT MUCH BETTER defensively than all those other players that came before him.

  2. Tsunami Says:

    It makes sense though – the Cavs are the best defensive team in the league and LeBron is the anchor of that defense. He is now considered by some to be the best help-side defender in the game, invoking images of Scottie Pippen to some, and there is plenty of evidence that his on-ball defense is the best in the league as well. To say nothing of the fact that he guards positions 1-4 and that he guards the other team’s best swing man.

  3. Brandon Hoffman Says:

    Tsunami:

    You said, “But in the previous paragraph, he points out that Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul, LeBron James, and Kobe Bryant are all at the top of PER. Um, since when do ANY of those players live in the post?! LeBron rarely defends post players, and he rarely posts up, and when he does post up, he is immediately double-teamed. He is 6′8″, not 7 feet tall. the fact that he scores so many of his points in the paint is a tribute to his aggressiveness, shot selection, and his incredible handles…”

    I think Jones’ argument was sound. LeBron and Wade live in the post in the sense that they score the majority of their points in the paint, which gives them a higher field goal percentage. 59% of LeBron’s shot are considered jumpshots. 67% of Wade’s shots are considered jumpshots. 78% of Kobe’s shots are considered jumpshots. For comparison, 61% of Duncan’s shots are considered jumpshots. LeBron attempts more shots in the paint than the best power forward in the game.

    If anything, Kobe’s shooting percentage (48%) is a testament to his shooting ability since he takes so many shots from the perimeter.

    You could argue that Wade and Paul don’t live in the post, but LeBron certainly does.

    You said, “Anyway, Jones then goes off on a tangent about how Kobe’s PER would be much higher if not for Phil Jackson always holding him back. But doesn’t that right there perfectly indicate a few facts about this whole argument? 1.) That the Lakers (just like everyone other than Jordan’s bulls) were unable to win a title with a dominant big? and 2.) Kobe’s FG percentage took a hit when Shaq left, and it wasn’t really until the best year of his career (2006) that he was able to get it back to his 21 year old level. this year, playing alongside Gasol and Bynum, his FG% is at an all time high.”

    I’m not sure what point you were trying to make, but I’m fairly certain that Jones was trying to point out how Bryant’s numbers were kept in check because he was second fiddle to Shaq. You believe that Kobe’s career year was his 2006 season. Bryant was playing close to that level in 2003 and 2004 too. But he didn’t have a green light. Shaq was the focal point during those seasons and rightfully so, but Bryant’s numbers would have been at his 2006 level if he had been the go-to guy during those seasons. He was hurt in 2005.

    You said, “But here’s the problem. LeBron James’ efficiency has been higher than Kobe’s almost ever year and he has had NO dominant players alongside him. So, if Kobe’s FG% increases because he has more talent around him (which makes sense…less double teams) and Lebron’s is always higher anyway, in spite of lack of talent (playing through double and triple teams) – why does it surprise anyone that LeBron is a more efficient player?”

    Which years are you referring to? Before last season, I think a very strong argument could be made that LeBron had a better supporting cast. Remember, Bryant was playing with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown. Parker was LA’s starting point guard for TWO SEASONS (2006 & 2007). Smush was the 12th pick of the 2008 D-League draft. The guy was a bum. So keep that in mind when talking about the talent surrounding Kobe during what you believe to be are his career years.

    My point is this: if Bryant is the focal point in 2003 & 2004 and if he’s surrounded by anything close to an average supporting cast in 2006 & 2007, we would have seen numbers like he’s putting up this season. A lot of “ifs,” I know…

    And I’m not even trying to argue that Bryant would have been more efficient that James. But I don’t equate PER with greatness either. It’s a number. Nothing more. Nothing less. And numbers will never tell the whole story.

  4. Tsunami Says:

    I absolutely LOVED (hated) the halftime show. Watching C-Webb and Kenny try to philosophize why Kobe is the better player because of his “demeanor”. LOL

    Something about after LeBron was fouled, he didn’t take it as personally as Kobe?

    The icing on the cake though, was when they invoked the great names of the past. C-Webb and his “demeanor” that became contagious. Charles Barkley and his “demeanor” which was contagious. Wow, lots of wasted talent, hung over day games, and pissed off teammates – yeah that demeanor was contagious. Contagious enough to get zero rings between them.

    ANd then, hilariously, Kenny uses Hakeem as an example. First of all, Hakeem is a champion, and one of the greatest players of all time. But wasn’t he the ultimate nice guy? I can’t EVER remember Hakeem taking anything personally. Or…letting his “demeanor” show it. He dominated on the court – and that was enough.

    I just can’t take all this bull anymore. It’s like – we have GOT TO FIND a reason to prove that Kobe is still the man. And the only way we can give LeBron props is by making it seem like he’s just a student of Kobe anyway.

    Hoffman this is why I hate the media. WTF is demeanor? How does points is DEMEANOR worth?

  5. Tsunami Says:

    as far as our other conversation – I agree that LeBron scores the majority of his points in the paint, but he doesn’t DEFEND post players. And he has no POST UP GAME. He’s not Al Jefferson – using his size to pop balls in the hoop over his head, or big Z tipping the ball to himself to get O-boards.

    Isn’t it impressive that a guy with zero post moves scores the majority of his points in the paint? Isn’t it impressive that a guy has the ability to get into the paint, the “DEMEANOR” to continue to attack, and the strength to do it for 82 games plus playoffs plus olympics?

    And as far as the other stuff. I am merely pointing out that Kobe’s field goal percentage (which is closely correlated to efficiency) has always been higher when he has had better players around him. Knowing that, isn’t it impressive that LeBron has had HIGHER field goal percentages than Kobe, even though LeBron has never played with a Shaq or Gasol?

    I’m not trying to get into the whole, who had a worse supporting cast in 2006 argument. Both teams had weak supporting casts – not going there now.

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